{"id":157829,"date":"2026-05-06T05:27:00","date_gmt":"2026-05-06T02:27:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/?p=157829"},"modified":"2026-05-05T15:57:45","modified_gmt":"2026-05-05T12:57:45","slug":"kaja-kunnas-two-countries-many-stories","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/en\/kaja-kunnas-two-countries-many-stories\/","title":{"rendered":"Kaja Kunnas: Two Countries, Many Stories"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Journalist <b>Kaja Kunnas<\/b> sits opposite me in a caf\u00e9. Through the windows there is a view of the swan pond in Kadriorg Park in Tallinn. The rainy, grey day remains outside the thick stone walls. Between us, cups of hot coffee are steaming.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">We recall how exactly 13 years ago Kaja Kunnas interviewed me, an entrepreneur who had moved to Estonia. This time, the roles are reversed. Now it is my turn to interview <i>Helsingin Sanomat<\/i>\u2019s Finland\u2013Estonia correspondent, Kaja Kunnas.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Estonian roots<\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">The connection to Estonia has been preserved in Kunnas\u2019s family for over a hundred years. Kaja\u2019s grandfather moved from Estonia to Finland in the 1920s and began working as a lecturer in the Estonian language at the University of Helsinki. In Finland he met his future wife, a Finnish translator and teacher. Soon they started a family.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Maintaining Estonian as a second home language is certainly one reason why the bond with Estonia has lasted to this day. \u201cWhen I was a child, there were theories in Finland that a child should only be spoken to in one language. But my father knew from his own experience that this claim was not true. Both Finnish and Estonian had always been spoken at home to him, and he continued this tradition in his own family,\u201d Kaja Kunnas explains.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-157830\" srcset=\"https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-650x433.jpg 650w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-85x57.jpg 85w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-120x80.jpg 120w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-210x140.jpg 210w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-225x150.jpg 225w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1-450x300.jpg 450w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_1.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Estonians seem to believe that a state-organised social system does not function effectively. \u201cIn Estonia, there is a strong belief that work is rewarded, and that initiative must come from the individual,\u201d says Kunnas.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Trips behind the Iron Curtain<\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Kaja Kunnas visited relatives in Estonia with her mother and siblings. She first travelled to her grandfather\u2019s homeland at the age of four. However, her father could not join those trips. \u201cMy father did not want to travel to Estonia in the 1970s, because he would not have been allowed to go to Muhu Island, which was his Estonia and where he had spent his childhood summers. Secondly, his childhood friend had been subjected to KGB interrogation and recruitment attempts because of our visits.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Later, around the turn of the 1980s and 1990s, her father was again able to travel to his family\u2019s lands. He also inherited his father\u2019s house on Muhu Island, which is still used by the family.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Shortly before Estonia regained independence, the University of Tartu and the University of Helsinki signed an exchange agreement. Kunnas applied to study in Tartu as an exchange student and was accepted. In Helsinki she had studied sociology, but in Tartu her subject changed to Estonian literature and history.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Kunnas says that on the eve of regained independence, the values of young Estonians felt more conservative than those of their Finnish peers. \u201cThey wanted to adopt everything that had existed in independent Estonia and belonged to that world. Finding continuity was extremely important. I had fellow female students, some of whom wanted to become housewives. Of course, this never really materialised in practice, and I don\u2019t know how serious these young women were at the time. Today many of them have had successful careers,\u201d Kunnas recalls.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"784\" src=\"https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-1024x784.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-157835\" srcset=\"https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-1024x784.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-650x498.jpg 650w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-768x588.jpg 768w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-85x65.jpg 85w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-18x14.jpg 18w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-120x92.jpg 120w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-150x115.jpg 150w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-210x161.jpg 210w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-196x150.jpg 196w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2-450x345.jpg 450w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_2.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">When asked which Estonian female politicians have impressed her, Kunnas mentions Kaja Kallas and Kersti Kaljulaid. Kallas in particular stands out: \u201cShe has advanced to a higher EU position than any Estonian before her. Her positions on security policy, Russia, and the situation in Europe have also been significant.\u201d<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Kunnas\u2019s Finnish-Estonian family<\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Kunnas moved to Estonia for work in 2002, when she began working as a foreign correspondent for <i>Helsingin Sanomat<\/i>. The contract was initially for one year. \u201cWhen I came here to Estonia, I genuinely wanted to come, even though the idea of staying longer felt unfamiliar. I already had a lot of knowledge about the country, ready-made contacts, and I spoke the language. I felt I had a lot to contribute in my work.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Fate intervened. During her assignment, Kaja met her future husband. The meeting soon led to marriage and a family. Now two of their three children have already left the Finnish\u2013Estonian nest. One studies at the University of Turku, and the other at the University of Tartu.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">\u201cIt is interesting to watch the children, because they have a strong dual identity. My children did not experience the Iron Curtain that I did at their age. They have attended confirmation school in Finland, and made friends there. They speak both languages perfectly and regularly visit relatives in Finland.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">At present, Kunnas also commutes regularly between Tallinn and Helsinki. She enjoys her work as a Finland\u2013Estonia correspondent, which she has now been doing for almost three years. A few years ago, however, she took a longer break from her work as a journalist at Helsingin Sanomat. \u201cAt that time I wrote our second book with <b>Marjo N\u00e4kki<\/b>, \u2018It\u00e4meren turvatarkastus\u2014Kun sodan uhka palasi\u2019, Gummerus, 2023. I was able to focus fully on the book. I also wrote a few longer articles for <i>Suomen Kuvalehti<\/i>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"843\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-843x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-157840\" srcset=\"https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-843x1024.jpg 843w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-535x650.jpg 535w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-768x933.jpg 768w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-85x103.jpg 85w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-18x22.jpg 18w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-120x146.jpg 120w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-123x150.jpg 123w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-210x255.jpg 210w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-450x547.jpg 450w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3-650x790.jpg 650w, https:\/\/balticguide.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/KajaKunnas_f_Tom-Rollich_3.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 843px) 100vw, 843px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">According to Kunnas, it is great to see that young people in Finland today do not view Estonia as a former Soviet republic, but rather as a place with an interesting youth culture.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Societal changes in Estonia<\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Over the decades, Kunnas has seen Estonia change profoundly. \u201cThe biggest change in Estonia has been the rise in living standards and the disappearance of extreme poverty. In this century, street children have disappeared and crime has decreased. Over roughly the past ten years, internationalisation and immigration from outside the former Soviet Union have increased.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">In Kunnas\u2019s view, values have also become more liberal compared to the period after regained independence. \u201cAlthough Estonia may seem and indeed is slightly more conservative than Finland, the overall direction has been towards greater liberalism. This trend has continued regardless of which political force has been in power.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Two countries, many stories<\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Over the course of her career, Kaja Kunnas has written hundreds of articles. Not all stories are forgotten. One of them is about an Estonian construction worker in Finland who was at the same time building a house in Estonia. During the reporting process, the house was completed, but the man himself had become estranged from the home he had built. He felt like a stranger in his own house.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">After the article, Kaja Kunnas heard that the man had ultimately decided to stay in Finland. The story was moving, because everything seemed fine, yet it was not. Years of living in another country had changed this person\u2019s life.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Kaja Kunnas herself has not had to choose between Helsinki and Tallinn. She works regularly in Finland, and feels she belongs to both countries. Perhaps that is why she is able to write so precisely about people and phenomena between the two countries.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">A radical language reform underway in Estonia<\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Kaja Kunnas is interested in Estonia\u2019s language reform, in which the language of instruction in Russian-language schools is being changed to Estonian. The change is radical and rapid, especially in areas where everyday language is still Russian.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">\u201cI follow the development with interest. Estonian-speaking society is extremely unanimous on this issue. The only criticism directed at the reform has been why it was not done earlier or why it is not being implemented more strictly.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Kunnas also follows the issue critically and with some curiosity about how the reform will succeed in practice. Among Russian-speaking Estonians, opinions are fairly evenly divided: half support the reform, and half oppose it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">\u201cI study Russian in my free time, and I have language partners in Narva. They have pointed out how difficult it is to find anyone in Narva with whom to practise Estonian. Both of them are teachers who are required to have a C1 level.\u201d Kunnas notes that there are many challenges to learning Estonian in Russian-speaking regions. The home language and environment are Russian. Only the language of instruction is Estonian. For many children who genuinely want to learn Estonian, it is very difficult, because the language exists only inside the classroom.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" style=\"text-align: left;\">\u201cOn the other hand, I wonder why Estonian has not been successfully taught in these schools as a foreign language from the beginning. It has not been a question of Russian-speakers not wanting to learn. Opportunities to learn the language have simply not been available, because people have lived in a Russian-speaking bubble. It is quite difficult to break out of that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Journalist Kaja Kunnas sits opposite me in a caf\u00e9. 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